On pages 70 and 71, Francis
finds Arthur Rivier drunk in an alley.
Arthur reveals to Francis that he wants people to talk about his war –
“the scared war.” Francis can easily
relate to Arthur’s reference.
○Explain what Arthur means by “the scared war.”
○In your opinion, why do you think it is important for
veterans (from any war) to talk about their experiences with other veterans, as
well as non-veterans?
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Arthur may have been drunk and was most likely talking about really nothing of importance until he actually mentioned, “the scared war.” It did spike interest in Francis though. What I think he means is that the veterans like him and Francis weren’t really heroes in the first place. In which case Francis can easily relate to that. It even states in page 71 “‘Heroes... We weren’t heroes...Scared and homesick and cramps in the stomach and vomit. Nothing glamorous like the write-ups in the papers or newsreels. We weren’t heroes. We were only there...’” By that quote what Arthur means is that even though everyone treats them like heroes and veterans, it’s like they did nothing special at all. That they only were there to do what was right and they didn’t deserve to be treated like a hero. In the real world it seems most heroes say that. That they didn’t need to be treated like they’re special but that they just did what was right.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, veterans should talk about their experiences more. Whether it is to other veterans or non veterans. It passes along the story of their heroism even though they don’t feel like talking about it. As Arthur said on page 70 “‘Nobody talks about the war,’” It feels fitting because I only just learned about some heroes that seem to be famous, but hearing their stories they don’t seem to talk about how they’re heroes at all. It reminds me of how people who do good things in life don’t brag about it but keep it secret.
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Arthur explains in his own words about how he was in a scared war. Arthur explains the scared war as being the worst thing ever he explains “so scared I, sh** my pants, bullets at my feet and everything let go.” I know if that was me in the war it would of scared the skin right off me. The scared war means that it was an extremely terrifying time in war that will haunt you for the rest of your life. Arthur and Francis can relate because of their scared wars in the war.
ReplyDeleteIt is very important for veterans to share their experiences with not only other veterans but non veterans as well. I think it is so important because it will put you ease when you tell that someone. It is like holding a big dark secret that you tell and it will make you feel a lot better. Arthur mutters “nobody talks about the war” meaning that nobody really talks about their personal scared war and I ponder that, which is a problem because they are just so anxious but still scared of the memory that once occurred.
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BANG! The ping pong ball hits the table. I had been practicing for hours but am determined to be the best. Playing table tennis was a lot of fun and I especially loved when Nicole came to watch. Larry LaSalle played an important role in Francis’ life. Larry acted as a father figure to young Francis. As stated in the text, “I have the perfect sport for you.” This is what Larry was telling Francis after Francis said he was bad at everything. Larry, like a father would, helped Francis find a sport that he loved to play. Larry dedicated a lot of time in showing him how to play table tennis because he truly cared about Francis. I believe this is like a father-son relationship because my dad taught my brother how to play football, and now my brother loves it. Also, in the text, “We were halfway through the game, the score standing at 13-12, my serve, when I realized he was letting me win.” This is another example of Larry’s father-like actions because he cares enough to let Francis win, even if that means himself losing.
Larry and I went on to play table tennis for hours. His eyes shone with admiration was I made unusual shots. The father-son relationship that Larry and Francis shared was greatly needed in Francis’ life. As said in the text, “My father died five years ago of a heart attack…although I felt he really died with my mother all those years before.” What Francis is describing is when his mother and brother died, the spirit of his dad died with them although his physical body died five years later. All those years continuing the death of his mother, Francis did not have much of a father figure because his father was always upset. With Larry, Francis could have fun and enjoy himself again. I once read that if a polar bears mate dies, the other does not ever mate again. This reminds me of Francis’ father and how he was never the same after his wife died. Larry was an influence to Francis because he taught him how to have fun again, something that his own father never showed him.
Bullets are flying everywhere and people are running. This is war, or what some veterans called it, "the scared war". Arthur meant that everyone was scared while fighting this war. "I remember the village and our advancing place and Eddie Richards saying: 'What are we doing here, anyway?' And the smell of diarrhea." They were homesick and scared, fighting for their country. That's what Arthur meant by the scared war. Many of the veterans remember being scared.
ReplyDeleteVeterans sometimes want to talk about the war they were in. This is important because maybe they won't have as terrible dreams or be scared of things. I was reading about how many veterans are scared of fireworks, because it sounds like the war. If they told other people what they were thinking, maybe it wouldn't be so bad for them. "'Nobody talks about the war,' he mutters trying to focus his eyes and finally finding the focus and now his eyes drill into mine, the bleariness gone." Most people don't talk about war to the veterans because it's a sensitive subject. But, it would be better for the veterans, to tell others about what they experienced. In my opinion, it is important for veterans to talk about the war they were in.
War is all a game of probability. There’s a possibility that you’ll survive and come back home, but there is always a possibility that you won’t. There is never a feeling of security because there is always the possibility your Camp could be bombed or ambushed. On those commercials they play on your television, where they ask high school seniors after graduation to enroll in our nation’s army, do they ever show the whole war? The actual war? When Francis finds Arthur in the ally drunk, Arthur goes onto describing how he wants people to know the real war, the scared war. Arthur means the war where you’re so scared you can hardly move, where you wish you could be back home not having to face impending death. I know this is what he means because on page 71 Arthur tells Francis, “God, but I was scared, Francis. I messed my pants. One day, running across an open field, so scared I shit my pants, bullets at my feet and everything let go...” he also says later on page 71, “…Only us, the boys of Frenchtown. Scared and homesick and cramps in the stomach and vomit. Nothing glamorous like the write-ups in the papers or the newsreels...”
ReplyDeleteImagine that everything, and every person emits energy. A positive person will release positive energy into the atmosphere, and a negative person does the opposite, they release negative energy. When someone goes through a traumatic experience, the energy that was produced during was sent through them causing them to feel depression, fear, and many other emotions. There are many different kinds of traumatic situations, and one of them is war. You’re faced with death every second of everyday, and there is never a way to be sure of what will happen next. It’s especially important for veterans of any kind and of any war to talk about their experiences. Talking about your thoughts, problems and past, is known to help tremendously. So, in my opinion it’s very important that veterans speak to others so they can overcome what has happened to them and warm others what war is really like. One way that Francis has been affected by the war is frequent nightmares that he describes on page 30 with, “I have survived another night, endured the dreams and the memories again although I’m not sure an y more which are the dreams and which are the memories.”
When Arthur said "the scared war", he meant that he and the people around him were really scared. On page 71, Arthur said to Francis, "I was scared, Francis. I messed my pants. One day, running across an open field, so scared I shit my pants, bullets at my feet and everything let go..." This goes to say that Arthur was scared and traumatized, that's why he called it "the scared war."
ReplyDeleteIt's important for veterans to talk about their war experiences with non-veterans, so that non-veterans know that there are others who would sacrifice their lives for their freedom. It's also important for veterans to talk about their experiences with other veterans because, they can psychologically and emotionally relate to each other. On page 70, Arthur mutters, "nobody talks about the war." Arthur obviously wants to talk to somebody, and who better than Francis. Arthur soon adds, "I want to talk about it, my war. And your war, too, Francis. Everybody's war."
What Arthur means by the "the scared war" is that every one was scared (stated on page 71). he talks about everybody that was in the scrapbook, he says no one is a hero in there. he says they aren't hero's they are just people that were there nothing more than that. i think what he is trying to say that there were so many other people there that not all of them could be hero's just the ones that did some thing special.
ReplyDeleteto me it is important for vets from any war to be recognized because they put their life on the line. they gave up their families to come over seas and fight the war and protect us. it's also important for them to talk to people about that time when they served in the army so that they don't feel like they're just another person that was there.they need to be heard and feel respected.